“I assume your post was written before my last post”
It was .
and I think I sort of hear what you are saying. Though, and here is the real kicker, by saying “Rape IS a 90 ”
you are really agreeing with my point.
Our discussion began back in July when you said: “In western society, it [rape] is just one step below murder.
Most people I have asked this to seem to lean more to the western feelings on this topic and have a rough time accepting that the Torah doesn’t view it that way” (link below)
you supported your claim by “And yet one only needs to pay. Whereas in American thought if there was a death penalty, they would give it”
Which is what prompted over two dozen examples proving that severity is not solely determined by the need to pay .
Accordign to your current framework. Lack of a ounishment, doesnt lower the severity of the averia per se, So rape whcih we gave a 90 severity to IS a 90 but lashon hara is worse fine.
but HOW do you know rape gets such a high score of 90? THAT was our original discussion. Its not from Torah sources which barely give it an onesh, so HOW do you know its so severe (you are right it is! dont get sidetracked) is that “Western society” talking ? Or is that a inherent G-d given morality compass talking?
“By the way
Do you mind telling me how you know when I post?”
It is frustrating. Over the past few weeks the home page of the coffee room changed to list forums(decaffeinated coffee, controversial topics, etc) instead of lsit of most recent discussions. Most topics currenlty active are in “decaffeinated coffee” this is in “controversial topics”
what makes it more frustrating, is sometimes clicking coffee room goes straight to decaffeinated coffee,
an easier way to find it, may be to tag it as “favroite” then when you click your profile it comes up in favorite tab