Avi
what exactly is your contention?”
That the OP’s statement that “The reason why stealing is bad is because by stealing you are going against the will of Hashem. Not for any other perceived moral reason. ”
Is not so cut and dry
to that end I pointed out several questions. One of them is from The Gemara that even without being commanded we would know not to steal. (sure hilchos geneiva would not look exactly as it does today, but that is completely irrelevant. Though upon further reflection this is the weakest question of the ones Ive posed. Because it would still be wrong becasue it went against the will of Hashem.. Hashem created our moral compass and yes even without being commanded we would know not to stel, but not because of som moraility that exists independent of the borei olam, rather becasue of the sense of morailty that the Borei olam created in us. )
“Are you saying that even without the Torah there would be a law against stealing?”
not a law per se, but that man would know it was wrong (this isnt my contention this is an explicit Gemara)
“The question is how stealing would be defined”
Thats your question, it has no bearing on my point