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jackk
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TOVP,

Your question was are anti-trumpers actual liberals? You are asking in a jewish frum coffee room, so I assume that you mean to ask the jewish frum members of the CR.
If you would only have asked economic issues , I could understand.
But you asked if we believe that all whites are automatically inherently racist or all policemen bigoted.
Those are not real questions. They are shtuchs. Because some far left liberals and POC proclaim to believe them does not make the beliefs less asinine.
And, yes I am a social conservative like everyone who tries to keep the Torah way of life. Helping other people, and certainly the unfortunate, is part of the Torah way of life.

Frum anti-trumpers are in the minority and have been libeled , marginalized, discounted, and trashed by the frum media for the past 4 years. As if we all are neturei karta’niks or not even frum because we are anti-trump even after moving the embassy to Jerusalem or after Rubashkin’s sentence was commuted.
One of the best summaries I have heard about the (former) republican party (now called Trumpism party ) is that Mitt Romney and John McCain were the leading representatives of republican ideas 4 years ago and now they are despised in the republican party and they did not even change a single view.

Jewish frum never trumpers did not all of a sudden become liberal’s over the past 4 years.
Similarly, just because a frum jew supports trump does not lessen his belief in chayim aruchim and וכן בשביל כל פיקוח נפש, ואפילו ספק פיקוח נפש מצוה לחלל עליו את השבת, ולעשות בשבילו כל איסורי דאורייתא, שאין לך דבר שעומד בפני פיקוח נפש, כי לא נתנה התורה אלא למען החיים שנאמר אשר יעשה אותם האדם וחי בהם

I am sorry for my uncalled for question. I ask that you mochel me.

PS. There is a bigger discussion and maybe you can start a post and that is how did 80% of the americans who voted for trump (56,000,000 people) decide – only after trump lost and called the election unfair – that it must be that the democrat’s stole the election via massive fraud (that cannot be proven! ) ?
If Trump would have acted like all other president’s and conceded would you still believe the narishkeit?