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dbrim
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The “arguments” made in this thread are in actuality insipid, irrational leftist talking points. So,
for example:
“WE NEED HIGHER TAXES IN ORDER TO AVOID DEFUNDING POLICE” – that’s an interesting spin but not even close to the real reason de-funders such as Marxist BLM, Antifa want to abolish law enforcement. And implementing change in law enforcement institutions would require more not less funding.
“Open borders? NO BUT WE NEED MUCH HIGHER LEVELS OF LEGAL IMMIGRATION” – and how do you think that might affect the lives and livelihoods of the lowest earner demographic groups which include minority groups and legal immigrants.
“Iran nuclear deal? whatever keeps the israel, american and the world safe.” – Israel and her supporters opposed the Iran deal; so did the more moderate middle east nations who want a safer middle east.
“Everyone white automatically racist? NO, but many are.” Really?! Exactly how many? And do you have any idea what kind of damage and disenfranchisement this horrific game of identity politics is wreaking and what the future ramifications can be. The overwhelming majority of Americans believe that racism should be identified, called out, prevented, and punished wherever it occurs – be grateful you live in this not-perfect but incredibly wonderful country where the goal is liberty and justice for all.
“A woman who is pregnant by rape or incest or actually a non-consenting minor should not be forced by the state to carry a pregnancy to term.” Typical strawman argument – statistically, the numbers of abortions due to these horrors is less than 1% – the vast majority of abortions are abortions of convenience. And last but not least –
“Do the pro trumpers really not care that 265,000 americans died from covid? a disgrace.” Reality check – Trump didn’t kill those people – Covid did. There is no logic or evidence to suggest that this pandemic would have been handled more responsibly by another leader; in fact, statistics suggest the contrary – projected Covid fatalities were much higher than what occurred. Every single death is a tragedy – something we can all agree on.
It seem to me that anti Trumpers hate Trump because they view him as being “incompetent” “deranged, a mushchis, spreading lies and disinformation” – these are subjective OPINIONS about character, not policy issues. The data however showed that Trump did a marvelous job with the economy and the job market, stemmed the tide of illegal immigration, got America out of an exploitive NAFTA deal and a diabolical, delusional Iran deal, was the best president ever for Israel (just ask 70% of Israeli’s, combatted anti-semitism on college campuses, created opportunities zones for black Americans
etc.
What will we have to argue about when he leaves office?