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“One good article is by The Federalist titled “5 More Ways Joe Biden Magically Outperformed Election Norms”.”

It isn’t a good article it is fluff disguised by fancy wording

Lets start with their first “anomaly ”

“Candidate Joe Biden was so effective at animating voters in 2020 that he received a record number of votes, more than 15 million more than Barack Obama received in his re-election of 2012.”

Now this is true. But Trump also got millions more votes than Obama did in 2013 6 or so million more. Obama was far more popular nationally in 2012 than Trump is in 2020. SO unless you are arguing that the fraud gave millions of extra votes to both candidates but more to Biden than Trump this argument doesn’t make any sense.

Trump won the 2nd most votes from any candidate in history, sadly his opponent got even more. But that shouldn’t be surprising .Nationally Biden was ahead in (nearly) EVERY poll. As many votes as you’d expect Trump to get, you’d Expect Biden to get more (of course the nationa lvote isnt wha matters but that is what this example discusses)

As to WHY there were so many voters this year , thats a fair discussion population growth? Ease of voting by mail? After decades of being told “This is the most important election in our lives “people believed it? Hatred of Trump ? Hatred of AOC? Love of Trump? Any combination of the above.

But any argument that alleges fraud because Biden got more votes than Obama has to explain how Trump pulled the same feat.

Their second argument
“Biden is set to become the first president in 60 years to lose the states of Ohio and Florida on his way to election”

These kind of “rules” are silly. things change. There have been only 46 presidents elected in the US history . see xkcd’s excellent cartoon entitled “electoral precedent” wit h a fellow making his predictions 1788 “no candidate has ever been elected”
1792 “no incumbent has ever been elected”

2000 “No republican has won without Vermont ”
2012 ” No democrat can win without Missouri”