Always ask, I am not sure what we are arguing about. Are you trying to say that there was no such a thing as Russian Jews?
Kindly point me to where I’ve said Moscow was around 1500 years ago. I said no such thing.
The official state, Rus started in the year 863 on what is today part of Russian proper. However, Jews lived in the Slavic populated region of what would officially become Russia since 1500 years ago. Rus was only partly on what is now Ukraine.
Forcing Jews to the Pale was only for approximately 150 years while the history of Russian Jews started centuries earlier and is still ongoing. The Pale was in any case in the WEST OF RUSSIAN EMPIRE on Russia proper and partly also included land what is TODAY states not considered part of Russia.
Lubavitch was established in the 18th century in what is today Liozna, Belarus which was at the time of Lubavitche’s founding part of the Russian Empire. Belarus was controlled by various states over the years before, including the original Russian Rus, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and other states, but the Russians Empire regained control over Belarus over 200 years ago. Eventually the state gained its independance from the Soviet Union after it’s dissolution. Lubavitche are considered to be Russian Jews.