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Syag, false. Excuses, excuses, excuses. Everyone went through the same system. Some people suffer more than others in life but those are not necessarily the ones who throw away Yiddishkeit. Today’s stupid excuse is trauma when most don’t have trauma it’s fake news.

Now am I saying the system is perfect? Absolutely not. I myself was discriminated against due to my family situation, which also wasn’t a bowl of cherries, mildly put.

How in the world does anyone think they have an excuse to throw away the Torah and mitzvos because life isn’t exactly the way they want it to be?! We are here to grow from our challenges, no one can use their God-given challenges to throw away Torah and mitzvos.

The woke secular society has influenced frum Jews as well. As someone who went through many, many challenges in life, I look down at people who throw away the Torah and oftentimes their entire lives, simply because they have challenges which EVERYONE does. The vast, vast majority of OTDs were absolutely not abused, it’s fake news.

Has everyone forgotten about bechira?! That term has been thrown into the trash bin. Now it’s about “trauma”…whether someone has trauma, real or imagined, there’s no excuse to drop Shabbos and eat chazer.

Can people love OTDs and people engaged in non-stop frivolous behavior? Absolutely, that is your ideoligy. However, as everything in life, this has repercussions with the communities being the most accepting of sinful people having the most of them.

Historically Rabbonim and frum Jews did not accept excuses from individuals who threw away Yiddishkeit, whether they were maskilim or converted to Christianity ( with the exception of forced conversions) and they were dealt harshly with. People say today is different and we must accept them the way they are then that’s their opinion. Hashem commanded us, without exception and without excuses, to fulfill His commandments, and we will be punished ( which we see this happening more and more frequently H”y) if we disobey and therefore if those who know better engage in abominable behavior and are mechalelei Shabbos, and eat treifus are, at the minium, looked down upon by people who do not take trampling of His mitzvos and His Torah lightly.

Being dan l’kaf zchus only applies to frum people, not have turned away from Yiddishkeit.