TLIK +1. I guess I am a Nistar (Modern-Litvishe) Satmar. Same for Igros Moshe, I think there was a response from R Kanevsky recently why religiously lighting candles does not always help raise a T’Ch – “maybe he did not supervise what the child is learning”. Note focus on parent supervising, not “maybe school did not teach properly”.
Also, current Daf Megilah talks about several people giving their segulos for long life. Here is what I learned:
First lesson – these questions are being asked of actual people who are pretty old, not from a rando in the street who wants to teach longevity.
Second – those segulot intersect but vary. According to my maggid shiur, this means that each person might have his own moment in time when he needs to make a special effort that is special to him. Gemora sometimes refers other people who do same middah when explaining it, but does not mention anyone who copied someone else and had a long life!
3 – while patience is mentioned, it is NOT a required one apparently! One elder’s guards chased R Akiva to the palmtree for asking about longecity secrets until he proved that he is a T’Ch.