Y18, i have to say that this is probably the most civil conversation of zionism I’ve had on here, and i appreciate your tone and willingness to hear the other side.
I think that when we say chazal speak in melitzos umesholim, they’re chazal, and there’s a mesorah (be it kabalistic, metaphoric, or otherwise) in how to interpret what they’re saying – they know that they’re transmitting Torah, and they’re speaking its language. It’s not that they’re personally involved or emotional and thus inhibited from being able to be clear about their intentions.
Nomesorah; unless you’re experience in the yeshivos is reading online bloggers who call themselves charedi, can you please tell me which talmidim of ponevezh, mir, chevron, or lakewood, mirrer Brooklyn, chaim berlin, etc have written perushim on rabbi kook’s seforim? I’d be pleased to know.
Rather, what it sounds like is analogous to my experiences with chabad bochurim. They come frequently to my yeshiva on kiruv missions, on yat kislev mostly, and on some yomim tovim. One time they remarked that my yeshiva was chabad oriented because, while ignoring dozens of woefully unfamiliar names(that the rest of the frum world mostly knows well) they noticed one of our roshei yeshiva was a chabad chosid (prior to the rebbe’s ascension as head… I’m not sure what his feelings were of him). It’s with that kind of myopia that they and religious Zionists view pur world. To be honest, i might be the same way if I visited a religious zionist school and noticed a picture of, say rabbi tzvi yehudah kook sitting next to rav shlomo zalman – it’s natural to notice things you’re familiar with, but the difference is that I’m aware of it and won’t draw conclusions based on such feelings.