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ubiquitin
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Katonti’s
your comment perfectly illustrates my point

You quote the constitution as if that ends discussion
It isn’t simple at all.

You say “The Constitution unequivocally grants the right of citizens to own firearms.”
1) This is debatable, that was not the interpretation of the constitution for well over a century (as I pointed out with sources in other threads)
2) Even if it was, the constitution can be reinterpreted. in 1973 the court said the constition grants right to abortion,. in 2022 they changed their mind. In 2009 the Court said the constition grants an individual the right to own firearms in 202? 203? they may change their mind
3) The constitution can be amended

That is putting the cart before the horse. If you think allowing guns is a good idea say so. If you don’t saying well the constitution ties our hands is nonsense

what you really believe is EXACTLY what I said here are your words : “But since when is public health an excuse to take away ones GD given rights?”

Of course Halacha believes an individual must give up rights for the tzibbur, as other posters have pointed out. But I grant America is not a halachic country. Putting the individual over the collective is EXACTLY what I said was the reason

“just like banning cars in the pursuit of eliminating car crashes would be considered ridiculous.”

As you may know cars are very regulated
you need a license to operate one
They need to be registered
There are limits how/where you can use them
You need insurance
If A Doctor deems you unsafe to drive can get your “right” to drive revoked

These are excellent ideas to enact with guns
YOU compared gun ownership to cars. I agree that would be great.