mobico,
I understand that you are just trying to bring out the point that there can be a great tzaddik whose son strays from his path, but please, don’t compare current OTD kids to Menasheh! Have some compassion! Do you know what these children go through these days?
The Chazon Ish writes that it’s impossible to compare the כופרים of the olden days to people who go off the derech now, due to the unique darkness and concealment of Elokus that exists in our time.
Instead, we must be mekarev them with love and show them the light of Yiddishkeit as much as possible.
(יורה דעה סי’ ב סט”ז)
If this is how it was in the time of the Chazon Ish (when the Am Yisroel was full of bochurim who were true lamdonim in Yeshiva who went after the enlightenment etc.), how much more so in our time when the darkness and ignorance is so much greater, חושך כפול ומכופל.
If כל ישראל יש להם חלק בעולם הבא, even including true sinners and רשעים, how much more so these poor lost souls who are suffering from the darkness of almost 2000 years of golus.
(רמב”ם הלכות תשובה פ”ג ה”ה: וכן כל הרשעים שעונותיהן מרבים דנין אותן כפי חטאיהם ויש להן חלק לעולם הבא שכל ישראל יש להם חלק לעולם הבא אף על פי שחטאו)
Let’s treat them with the true compassion and sympathy that they need, and with Ahavas Chinam we will bring them back to their heritage, and most importantly the Geula for all Yidden.
מנחם שמו