marx, You might be yotzei lo yamush, but there is a chiyuv to learn all the time unless you’re busy with work etc.., according to many poskim.
See the ohr somayach mentioned above; that chiyuv depends on the individual, and the person is supposed to constantly get themselves to learn more, according to their level.
I will get a list on this shortly.
I’m not sure if rav moshe argues with those poskim, or if he’s referring to the specific chiyuv of lo yamush, which you’re yotzei with a seder kevuah (lechatchila in respect to krias shema)
He does say that you should go through shas in order to be mekayam vedibarta bam. I don’t believe he mentions daf yomi in particular.
There is also an issur of bitul torah; kevias ittim doesn’t negate that. Does a baal habayis violate bitul torah if he has free time and chooses to engage in batalah? Some say yes, some say no. It would still be an affront to torah to LEARN something else bekevius, when one can learn torah instead.
There’s also an obligation of ameilus batorah; learning daf yomi with an artscroll and a cup of coffee while someone slightly more knowledgeable than one’s self prattles through aramaic translations and sprinkling in a rashi or two is NOT ameilus batorah. I doubt rav moshe imagined a person would learn that way and think he’s “learning shas”
Reb e – you were able to make sense of that statement? It sounded like a mockery of how yeshiva guys talk.
I agree that there’s a tremendous difference between men and women, as women are patur from talmud torah. However they are obligated to know halachos that pertain to them, which can be quite complicated. That level of learning – where it’s more of a heichi timtza for kiyum hamitzvos – I’m not sure if the study of secular subjects would be an affront to it. It’s a lower level of learning, not torah lishma….it’s a good question, and I don’t think it’s clear cut.