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ubiquitin
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“You need to explain why you think the same US Government could successfully run something of a much larger magnitude.”

Medicare works, here other countries manage. I see no reason why the US can’t manage soemthing similar.
The fact that something else was tried has nothing to do with this .

Sure
No premiums. taxes go up. Government pays for health costs.
Easy peasy
Same as medicare just for everybody

“I’ve said this point before and you haven’t addressed is so I’m going to repeat again- this is mostly due to the irresponsible culture here of people not caring about their health or taking responsibility for their wellbeing.”

I am nto sure what there is to address. But I’ll repeat it again so encourage people to care about their health.

“You still haven’t explained how a company will survive with a low paid CEO.”

for the 21st? Time they shouldn’t survive. that is my plan.
How on earth are you still not getting this?

Take one day’s worth of the Ceo’s salary use it to pay my neighbor’s cancer treatment for 2 years (10,000 a month), the ceo will barely notice the missing money its not even a rounding wrror. And neighbor gets to live a few more years . I know I know “no sane person” would expect insurance company to shell out money just to gain few years (The rep practically told him that too) . and leshitascha I can’t blame them they have to make profit.

“CMS isn’t a private company- it’s a government agency.”

YES!!!! Exactly. so it can be done.

” typical company that acted like that would be out of business within a year…”

This is incorrect Medicare is very popular.
and by far the easiest company to deal with.

“Obviously the shareholders and board which determines his compensation felt that that’s what he’s worth. If you feel that he’s overpaid start a mutual, not-for-profit company that’s owned by the policy holders, become the low paid CEO, pay all claims, charge lower premiums and if you can stay in business you can put them out of business- that’ll show them.”

what ? Seriously, What?

“CAN NOT work until people start taking more responsibility for their health. Can you please respond to that directly?”

Again?
Sure. so encourage people to take more responsibility. You got me. I’m in.

“Uh- there was- the comparison to the public school that I just repeated again. Please explain why it’ll be different”

Sure.
firstly Medicare works so no reason to compare to ecucation which is less similar.
Second all the government will be doing is paying the bills. The Government is nt running anything You still go to your doctor and instead of him billing aetna he bills medicare. Just like he’ll do when you are 65 just does it earlier
And I’m not sure how you think private medical insurance makes sure their clients are listening to doctors any more than Medicare does. In fact Medicare (escpecially with dialysis) is MORE data driven deducting pay certain medical benchmarks arent made (like keeping hemoglobin in certain range, keeping out of hospital etc)