Mentsch, if you’ve noticed, i haven’t bad mouthed r. Mirvis. I have only said what is very clear and what he himself says, that he is not one of the gedolei yisroel or a posek, and that he requires the decision of one to do what he did. He claims that such a psak was given. I’m asking to know who that was and what was said, because it’s a very questionable action.
I didn’t say you were sidestepping, i said you were being vague. Allowing some things doesn’t mean allowing others. The examples you quoted have no bearing on the case, other than to establish that such an idea of sholom malchus exists – it does, but what are its limitations? Standing in attention of a religious ceremony is almost a tacit approval of the prayers and hymes. Did the gemara say that’s ok?
And what sholom malchus is there in England compared with the situation in Rome or bavel? One wrong move and it was “off with his head” in those places, and in old England, too. But as pointed out, today’s monarchy in England is more cultural – now it’s important to ingratiate ourselves with the upper echelons of society as part of our security and to advocate for our communitys needs, but that is a far cry from the situation of old. Where is there proof that to gain clout we may violate any of the mitzvos? Eivah, sholom malchus… These concepts are quite different now.
I’m questioning r. Mirvis. He’s not someone who I’m obligated to listen to or be mevatel daas to. And he’d be the first person to tell you that.