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Menachem Shmei
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>>>When you admit that what you wrote about Rav Moshe was slanderous and you publicly apologize, I’ll respond to your challenges.

You said that we need Reb Moshe to give his haskoma to the Rebbe being Moshiach, since he was the undisputed posek of gantz klal yisroel.

If I understand correctly, n0mesorah just pointed out a true fact. That they probably wouldn’t care about his haskoma in Williamsburg, Bnei Brak, Meiah Shearim, etc.

Then you went on to accuse him of attacking Reb Moshe, and when he tried to defend himself, you said that you would ignore his defense (which you obviously read) until he apologized for what you know he never said.

Sechel also pointed out historical proof that Reb Moshe wouldn’t make a difference in this case: Reb Moshe has several psakim and letters supporting Lubavitch activities and immensely praising the Lubavitcher Rebbe, yet that doesn’t impress the haters in the slightest.

To prove his point, below are some excerpts of what Reb Moshe wrote about Lubavitch (my point isn’t to prove anything to the other posters here, since they will say that he didn’t really know what was going on in Chabad, or Chabad changed.
This is specifically for qwerty who claims to respect Reb Moshe so much):

Regarding mivtza neiros shabbos, (which many rabbanim attacked, ?????):
??? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ??? ????? ??????? ???, ?? ???? ???? ????? ??. ???????? ???”? ??????? ???? ?? ????, ??????? ?????? ????? ???? ?????? ??? ??????

Letter to rabbanim to speak about mivtzoim following the Rebbe’s heart attack in 5738:
???? ?? ??? ??????? ?? ????? ????? ?????”? ??????????? ????”?, ??? ?? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??????, ??????? ????? ????? ??? ????? ?????? ??????. ???? ???? ??? ?? ???? ?????? ????”? ?? ??? ??? ????, ???? ???? ?????? ????? ??????, ????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ??? ??????? ??????? ?? ?????”? ??????????? ????? ?? ????? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ??? ???’.. ??? ?????? ??? ????? ??????? ??”? ???? ?? ???????

In 5740, when Rav Shach attacked lag baomer parades (as sechel mentioned):
??? ????? ???? ??????? ????. ?? ????? ??????? ??? ??????? ???? ?”? ????? ?????? ????? …. ??? ???? ???? ?? ?? ??????? ?????????, ??? ???? ?????? ???????, ??? ???? ????? ?????? ?”??????” ????? ??, ????? ???? ???????? ??? ??? ??????, ??? ???? ??????? ???, ?? ???? ?? ???? ???. ???? ???? ??? ???? ?????, ?????? ????? ????? ???? ?? ?????”

In honor of the first siyum harambam (which Rav Shach fiercely attacked):
????? ???? ?????, ????? ??? ???????? ????? ?????? ?????? ?? ????? ????? ???? ?? ????”?.. ??? ??? ????? ?? ?????”? ??????????? ????”?, ???? ????? ?? ?????? ????? ????? ????? ????, ?????? ???? ????. ??? ???? ????”? ?????? ???? ???????, ?????? ????????? ???? ?????? ???? ????? ?’ ?????, ?? ???? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ???

For the Rebbe’s birthday:
???? ??? ???? ?? ??? ???? ????? ????? ????? ????? ??? ??? ???? ???? ????”? ?????????? ?????”? ???????????, ??????? ??? ????? ???? ?? ????? ??? ????? ???? ????? ???? ?? ?????. ?????? ?’ ????? ??????? ???? ????? ?????? ??????? ????, ???? ????? ??????? ????? ???”? ?????? ????????, ???? ???? ??? ???? ???????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ????? ????? ????? ?????, ?? ???? ????? ???? ?????, ????? ??? ??????, ????? ?? ???? ?? ?? ????? ??????. ????? ????? ????? ??????, ???? ???? ?? ?????? ???? ????? ??????. ??? ?????????

And for the Rebbe’s 80th:
???? ?????? ?????? ???? ??? ???? ????? ????? ????? ?????”? ???? ????? ????”? ?????????? ???????????, ??? ???? ????? ????? ??????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ????? ???? ????? ?????, ???? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? ??? ????.. ???? ????? ???? ???? ?? ?????”? ????”?, ????? ?????? ??? ??????? ?????, ??? ?? ??? ????????? ??????? ??? ??????? ??????? ??? ????? ????? ???? ????? ?????, ????? ??????? ???? ?????? ????????…????? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ?????? ????? ????, ??? ???? ????? ????”? ????? ???? ???? ???????. ???? ????? ??? ????? ??????? ???? ?????, ????? ?? ????? ???? ??, ?????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ??????, ????? ?? ?????”? ????”? ????? ????? ??? ????? ?????? ????.. ????? ????? ????? ????”? ????”? ??????? ??, ?????? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ?????? ????? ??? ???? ?? ?????”? ????”?.

Representing all the rabbanim of Agudas Yisroel:
???? ???? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ????? ????? ????? ??? ?’ ???? ???? ?????????? ????”? ?????”? ???????????. ???? ??? ????? ???? ?? ?????? ???? ????? ??????, ???? ?? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ?????? ???? ?????? ????, ????? ?’ ????? ???? ??? ?? ????? ??????? ?????”? ?????? ?????. ??? ??? ????? ????? ???? ??????? ?? ????”? ????? ????? ??????? ??????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ??? ????? ???, ?????? ??????? ????? ??? ????? ????? ???? ?? ?? ???? ????. ????? ????? ????? ???? ?? ?????? ???? ????? ??????. ??? ?????????, ????