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@n0mesorah
“Which yeshiva wouldn’t he condemn today? We have all fallen the way of YU of thirty years ago”

Rav Gifter (and the other yeshiva Gedolim) had very unique and specific problems with YU/Norman Lamm
Please see my posts #2216450, #2215761, and #2216529 where SOME are articulated.


@KM
@AviraDeArah is correct when he writes “The issue surrounding mendelssohn had little to do with secular studies, as this was common in other countries, like Italy. The issue was reform, change. He wanted to change things. He said that the Torah world needs to accommodate changing times by leaving the way we were taught. He said that mingling with non jews is good for us, against what chazal say.”

I wrote this so as to clarify that there are two issues to contend with:
1. Being enlightened and educated to be closer to the way of the non Jews.
2a. the belief in chochmas yivonis as being separate from the Torah
2B. and something worthy of being glorified (equal to or above the Torah itself).


@all
I know I am repeating myself, but it’s important to make this distinction as different groups have had different motives. Not knowing what they are and were makes it impossible to even start understanding why there is so much pushback.