Chaim, American jewry 75 years ago couldn’t read chumash and rashi. What was “frum enough” then included going to public school. We don’t decide halacha by what ignorami do in a country bereft of yeshivos.
Josephus writes about how chazal appointed the political leaders and led the nation in all matters, even mundane.
When it comes to things they don’t like in the torah world ,MO put on big yarmulkes and say “tradition!!” When it comes to things they want to change, it’s “get with the times!”
So incredibly disingenuous.