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UJM
Wow, thank you for your answer. I personally have spoken to most of the Gedolim in our generation about this topic and I felt you portrayed the “consensus” well. One thing I would clarify, some, such as reb shmuel Kaminetsky, hold one should learn secular studies for the sake of general knowledge. When asked, he said one a boy in high school should learn physics (even if this meant less learning in Seder).

However, the danger in even repeating it is that many even in today’s world want to push the envelope on the intent and promote secular studies to a level those Gedolim would be horrified with. Secular studies should never be put in any type of pedestal.

Square root
The you simply have no idea what is happening today in the ultra orthodox world. The yetzer hara to go to college as in the decades past is over. There are fast track programs for almost every field, and there are even great solutions for those looking to go into law. Just in the last 5-10 years 10s of thousands are doing very well having skipped the standard four years of college.

Damoshe and AAQ
Saying those Gedolim went to college is disingenuous at best and entirely misleading. Not one of those you mentioned feel one should learn philosophy or go to college (even if they held there were exceptions).

There is a pretty clear mesorah for all of this and people in their foolishness believe they know better than our great Gedolim over many generation. Sometimes they mean well but are naive. Sometimes it’s people with an agenda.