Reply To: Clarification to mod and DaMoshe

HaLeivi,

Thank you. I find it ironic that Arsos seemingly biggest gripe with lubavitch is that we think the Rebbe was a bigger tzadik than others, while he himself regularly demonstrates the Rebbe shockingly, in a way that should really call out a machaa on a general basis, and ironically how we would never speak any his Rebbe whoever it is.
It’s nice to see another voice on this.

Arso,

“ Delete those contacts because they are liars!”

Just for your info these are family friends in a well known chassidishe community (not lubavitch) who are non lubavitch Chassidim.

“ There is an implication there that is truly shocking! Tznius for women is NOT an “external factor”. It is quite possibly the number one mitzvah that women have, as with a lack of tznius women is machshil literally hundreds of men every day. And that is not even dealing with the ramification that “if Mrs So-and-so can dress this way, cerainly I can.”

I’m sorry you misunderstood. What I meant was that a Tznius lubavitch woman can be counted on to be a yarei shomayim through and through, because it is her choice to dress this way- and it can’t be compared to the many more strictly tznius women in other communities who are in many cases dressing because of social/communal pressure. Yes of course she gets the zechus of Tznius regardless, but it doesn’t mean she or her family is equally tznius behind closed doors.

Tznius is very important and the crown midda of women (not just externally but moreover internally.) we had a tznius class in high school, I have run a tznius club myself, have written 3 curricula for different settings on it, and ironically, I hear that those of us who did learn about it, have more appreciation for tznius than those who may dress the dress but have a negative feeling about it because of the community experience.