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Hashem is telling us clear, rochel btcha haketana – miracles will happen

No. It is not a promise that such a miracle will happen. Because Rebbe Akiva tells us in Sanhedrin 90 that it won’t.

And again. No one here is bringing proof to the truth if a concept from a miracle. This is not אילן יוכיח. There are two points now at stake.

My point was that the שלש שבועות as explained by the Maharal are all about the fact that the Galus will stay in place and you shouldn’t even try to get out of it. And if you do try it will end badly and you’ll stay in Galus, obviously. And so, if calling your neighborhood a state is a direct violation to one of these oaths, it would have ended the way it describes. And fortunately, it didn’t. Instead, the state lived on and prospered.

This is my argument as to why I believe that in the end, none of the oaths were technically violated.

The second point here is that if a salvation happened, it was from Hashem, and we have to be thankful and not be כפויי טובה. If it was a remarkable salvation, all the more so. And situations a lot less remarkable than the wars in EY were called Nissim.

A side point: I’m sure you know that in Israel they prepared large cemeteries because, apparently, they weren’t as sure as the apathetic State Department. Even today, the US government is very optimistic on Israel’s back about how nothing that terrible would happen if they remove road blocks, let in many more workers unchecked, turn around and leave before concluding war goals, reward crimes with statehood, turn the other cheek, and overturn the government that doesn’t fully align with current administration in America. Do you trust their judgement? Or is it only brought up selectively to grab the Hodaa away from Hakadosh Baruch Hu?