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yankel berel
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@Shmei
As introduction –

this is NOT personal against you,
is NOT personal against Habad hasidim either.
This is NOT sin’at hinam , —– simply because there is no sin’a at all.

I have NO preconceived notions against habad , nor do I have any grievances against habad.

Aderaba – I LIKE habad hasidim.

But – facts ARE facts , and evidence counts.

So :
A1] One cannot be naive . Otherwise you turn into a “useful idiot”.
It is clear [without fact checking your claim when this atsmut toch haguf rubbish was said] that the future leader of habad is [more than] interested in the success of his future endeavor of leading his hasidim. That goes without saying and is obvious to anyone.

A2] Just to remember, there were 2 understandings [according to the habad defense here] ,

One: the LITERAL MEANING that God resides in a guf . This IS God.[a’l] our Creator . Who continues to be Manhig lehol HaBru’im
Two: The NON LITERAL MEANING that the tsadiq connects himself so strongly to God that legodel dibuko, we could stick a title to him AS IF he would be God.

To Anyone learning those early sfarim It is clear that the No’am Elimelech, R Bachay ,Minhat El’azar are referring to the second NON LITERAL MEANING

Thats why no one went crazy when those sfarim wrote what they wrote.

With the [late] leader of the habad hasidim , however, it is a totally different story. I myself remember hearing [in the early eighties] , from a mekor ne’eman that R Salamon zatsal [mashgiah of BMG] , convened a closed meeting in 1967[!] about his concern about the utterances of the habad leader .

So it is not true to say like shmei would have us believe
“no one went crazy until 1989.”

They went crazy already in 1967 [and in Israel even earlier]

I am witness to habad truck adorned with a picture of their leader with the following inscription underneath
Rebbe, Advisor ,Leader ,Prophet, Redeemer, God.

you cannot ignore the different language employed by their leader , different to ALL OTHER rebeim and rabbanim in this generation re his/shvers greatness

AND the different RESULTS engendered in his followers . Again – different to all other followers in other communities in our generation.

Both the language and the results are very different . This is a deliberate attempt at engendering a different result .

Think about this carefully .