Reply To: Terrorists Murdered Hostages Shortly Before They Were Located

smerel: That’s a fair answer to the question in the OP. You are saying that it is worth sacrificing the lives of the hostages in order to destroy Hamas.

philosopher: The State of Israel is part of golus. Jews aren’t safe there either (not that you need anyone to tell you that; you can simply read the news.) The problem lies when Zionists falsely claim that their State is the answer to golus and that their State is a safetynet for Jews around the world, when it is exactly the opposite.

And is it Gedolei Yisroel zt’l such as Rav Avigdor Miller zt’l, Rav Yitzchok Hunter zt’l, the Satmar Rebbe zt’l and many others who publicly stated that the Zionists bear guilt for the Holocaust.

Yes, the anti-Jewish terrorism *is* a result of Zionism. Prior to Zionism, which began around 1898 when Chief Zionist Theodore Herzl ym’s called to take over Palestine and thereby riled up the Arabic world, the Arab/Muslim world prior to Zionism (note that 1898 is an earlier date than the Zionists establishing their state in ’48) was much more Jewish-friendly and far less violent than the Christian/European world. Sure there were sporadic incidents of Arab/Muslim violence against Jews over the centuries; after all we are in Golus and there is NOWHERE to escape antisemitism until Moshia cubes. But the Arab/Muslim violence in 1,000 years leading up to the Balfour Declaration in 1917 was nothing even remotely close in quantity to the regular cycles of murder and genocide initiated against us Jews by the Christians in Europe, with their regularly scheduled blood libels, expulsions, Inquisitions, Crusades, Ghettos, annual Christmas-eve call to violence by their priests and bishops (hence Nitul Nacht), and, of course leading up to last but very much not least, their murder of six million Jews in the Holocaust in just this concluding century that our own grandfathers and grandmothers experienced and told all of us about.

No, the Arabs and Muslims didn’t even come close to out -competing the Christians and Europeans. Our Jewish brothers and sisters living under Arab and Muslim rule did much much much better (until Zionism existed) than us Jews living under Christian and European rule.