Reply To: Terrorists Murdered Hostages Shortly Before They Were Located

philosopher: I’ve provided numerous quotes from Rav Hunter and Rav Miller on this site, in the Coffee Room, well over ten years ago. You can easily find them with an easy search. But to be helpful I’ll reprint on this thread a couple of quotes from them, for your benefit.

Virtually the entire secular Israeli society self-identifies as Zionists. Your attempting to redefine who is oumr isn’t a Zionists, even though those millions of Israeli folks themselves identify as Zionists, is simply not credible.

And, of course, we are in Golus. That is equally true whether we live in America, Australia or in Israel. That will unfortunately remain the case until the coming of Moshiach. The problem is that Zionists think Golus is over. You can right over here on this site see how many dozens and dozens of times many posters here who identify as Zionists refer to Chutz l’aarerz as “Golus” and Israel they refer to as outside of Golus. I did not say America is safer. I disputed the Zionists frequent false assertions that their State of Israel is some sort of safe haven for Jews and is, despite all evidence to the contrary, safer for Jews than living in Australia, Canada, America, England, France, Russia, Argentina, Cuba, Morocco or even Iran. It is just as likely, if not more likely, that the Jews in Israel may need to flee the Zionist State of Israel to other countries than vice versa. The Brisker Rosh Yeshiva said exactly this just a year or two ago, as widely reported here and elsewhere.