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Menachem Shmei
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Philosopher,

Menachem shmei, no, none of the meforshim say that Yaacov alive in his kever.

What about the Rif, Etz Yosef and Iyun Yaakov (all of which I linked above), and how Artscroll learns Rashi (as I quoted above)?

A body to be alive needs air, it needs food, it needs water, it needs to do bodily functions.

But the posuk testifies to a miracle. Hence מקרא אני דורש.

the Rif and others say the comatose stage was until he was bought Eretz Yisroel and was buried there.

Rif!? Not in the Rif that I saw. Would you be so kind as to point out which words of the Rif says this?
[I did indeed see this in a different meforash – can’t remember which – but the Rif clearly says that he was buried while still alive.]

Menachem Shmei said repeatedly that Yaacov is PHYSICALLY alive so that he can draw a parallel from his rebbe to Yaacov

Completely wrong. You don’t even know my opinion about the Rebbe, and I never brought him up in this discussion!

YOU brought up the topic of Yaakov lo mes, and (falsely) claimed that no meforash interprets it physically. That’s what began this discussion.
This has nothing to do with the Rebbe or Chabad.
This is about understanding how meforshim learn a certain sugya in Gemara.