Qwerty that is a very good vort that Chava conversing with the nachash was a mistake. She was probably trying to “clarify” the situation as well. Yes, that is the wrong approach. I do not deny that i always fall into this trap of trying to talk logic with brainwashed people -it doesn’t work. Indeed, I cannot dissuade Menachem Shmei who is now arguing with a b’ferisha pasuk that says clearly that Yaacov died. First he argued that Yaacov wasn’t buried. So I proved it says he was buried. So then he said Yaacov was buried but he’s buried while still alive. Now a bring him a posuk in the Torah which says Yaacov that Yaacov died and he is still arguing with me.
From here on, for me the topic on this thread about “Yaacov lo mes” is closed.