philosopher to me: 1. The Ohr Hachayim’s commentary is not on the Gemorah, it is on the Torah. It has no shaychus to the Gemorah. (And you had laughed at me on the other thread for not learning in yeshiva…lol)
First, what you wrote is absolutely ridiculous! Do you think the Or Hachayim just made up his pirush based on his own understanding – like you, unfortunately, seem to? Both he and Rashi on Chumash quote the gemoro of Yaakov Avinu lo meis, and the Or Hachayim is explaining how that works in line with the pesukim?
Second, I didn’t laugh at you for not having learned in a yeshivah. Aderaba, had you learned in a yeshivah I would indeed have laughed at you because women are not meant to. In fact I didn’t laugh at you at all. On the contrary, I think it’s sad that someone who has no men’s-yeshivah background gets involved in these discussions and tells all of us who have had a men’s-yeshivah background, how to interpret Chazal. You really should desist, because you write things that just don’t make sense when taken in full context!
“It has no shaychus to the Gemorah.” How can anyone with any yeshivah background say that after looking up the Or Hachayim, who writes on the preceding passuk: “והוא מאמר רז”ל (תענית ה ב) יעקב אבינו לא מת “. Gee! Keep away from these discussions because you are just proudly showing off your ignorance. You may have noticed that there is not one man with a yeshivah background on this list – at least none that I can recall; correct me if I’m wrong – who agrees with you about the Or Hachayim or Rashi’s shitah. Doesn’t that say something, or are you too blindly arrogant – sorry, but that’s the only way I can understand it – to admit that you’re out of your depth?
2. I bought the entire text of the Ramban on the other thread. It says absolutely NOTHING about Yaacov lo mes meaning that Yaacov’s guf is alive. In fact, the Ramban gives another explanation for Yaacov lo mes entirely.
Oh come on! Not again! The Ramban concludes with what you have just written, but he starts with Rashi – which was, and is, the point of this discussion – and he understands Rashi, as we men with yeshivah backgrounds do, that according to Rashi Yaakov Avinu did NOT physically die. He was embalmed in some form, and buried while still alive. Leave us alone with quoting sources that may be Torah miSinai but are not relevant to what Rashi holds.
Check again and find one post of mine (or I believe of anyone else’s) where I say that it is universally accepted that Yaakov Avinu literally did not die. I, and all the others, have written explicitly that that is Rashi’s view, together with a number of Acharonim. So please, please, please stop quoting sources that don’t tell us what Rashi holds!
Sorry, but I still think it would be better if you stuck to whatever you are good at, and I’m sure there are a number of things. Discussing Torah sheb’al peh with men is NOT your forte!