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“Sorry Neville but now you’re just spewing garbage”
Belief in individual liberty is now “garbage” under the Trumpest definition of “conservatism.” If American conservatism now has to include lockdown-supporters then conservatism is dead in America.
“Well the do nothing to stop it isn’t the point”
Yes, it was. You’re just moving the goalposts to make excuses for Trump. Trumpists do the same thing by the border wall (eg. well, obviously he didn’t really mean it, obviously he was never really going to make Mexico pay, etc.).
“Oh yes such a thing happened. Go research it.”
It was only 4 years ago, you really think I don’t remember? I don’t deny that he made such a statement, but it did nothing. Are you really claiming that after he said that, all restrictions were instantly lifted on houses of worship? If that was your experience (which I highly doubt), then you probably live in a red state with an actual conservative governor. I can tell you with certainty that that did not happen in New York.
“And Guess what I am one of those that believe lockdowns at least early on were important.”
Then you’re a collectivist rat. If you’re worried about safety, hide in your own basement. Forcing the rest of us to do so is no less psychotic than any other dictatorship throughout history. They all have their justifications for tyranny. Also, not that it makes a difference, but the lockdowns were demonstrably ineffective except at causing thousands if not millions of young people to die of suicide and overdose.
“& comparing it to swine flu?? Please.”
Good point, the swine flu was arguably much worse since it was dangerous to kids and not just old/sick people who had already long outlived their life expectancies. Nonetheless, Obama did the right thing and did not use it as an excuse for authoritarianism.
“I distinctly remember many people’s beef with trump was his being anti-lockdown.”
If half the stuff leftists said about Trump were true, he would have actually been a decent president. Unfortunately, he was not the “extremist conservative” you all like to pretend. He was–at best–a pareve, neo-liberal just like the rest.
“my wish list is short:
1) do not do anything crazy
2) reduce the power of the presidency”
Fully agree with AAQ here. Unfortunately, I don’t think people voted in favor of a weaker executive branch. At least that’s not how I interpret it.