I wrote a response, but the mods did not let it through – I assume due to the harmless links I accidentally left in (one being to Rav Ahron Soloveitchik’s defense of his brother on the Seforim Blog, and the other being a link to Yom 9b). I’m not rewriting it. The mods can remove the links and then let it through it if they wish.
To the subject at hand.
HaKatan: At the end of the day, no RZ community (other than maybe Chardalim) cares what the Charedi community thinks about RZ being heresy. When confronted (rarely ever) about RZ being heresy, the reaction is either: (1) Don’t care, you have your path, we have ours (also known as Elu V’Elu, something you obviously don’t accept but should); or (2) with many of the arguments and questions Chaim, others and I have presented here and in the other threads about this subject. The reaction is usually silence or being cursed out in Yiddish, and I have personally experienced and witnessed this reaction many times.
The Rabbonim I have asked these questions to have all responded in the manner I answered or along such lines. These answers did not come out of thin air. Contrary to what you may want and fervently wish to be, they are not “pathetic”. Nor are they heresy. You declaring in an authoritarian manner that something is “pathetic” or “heresy” doesn’t make it the case in the slightest. No, I am not going to go to a Gadol with such questions for the simple reason that a Gadol doesn’t know me from a hole in the wall. A Gadol doesn’t know my background, where I stand on the religious spectrum, what my education is or even what my beliefs are. A local Rav would, and that’s who I’ve asked. None of them have suggested I elevate the questions to another “higher” Rabbinic authority.
What I want to know is the following: Did Rabbi Teitelbaum ever read Rav Kook’s works? If so, what was exactly stated therein that was heresy? (From what I’ve learned (after you figure out the difficult Hebrew used), there’s nothing heretical. A bit too focused on תורת הנסתר וקבלה for me to be sure, but nothing that violates any עיקר אמונה). If not, the charge of heresy is erroneous at the minimum, and is slander. Did R’ Teitelbaum ever interact with Rav Kook? My impression is that he went out of his way to avoid anyone who spoke positively of RZ or Zionism out of fear that he may change his mind.
What the RZ community cares about is not relevant to this thread because it involves a lack of IDF service (Charedi blood is not סומק טפי in comparison to the צדיקים מק״ק דתי לאמי למיניהם, who have sacrified everything in a פיקוח נפש situation while Charedim refuse to do anything), working and otherwise behaving in a manner that is not מתחלל שם שמים.
I’m done answering you. This discussion/argument is utterly pointless, and it is most definitely not מלחמתה של תורה. For the last time: You are wrong. End of discussion. Be well.