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SQUARE_ROOT – With all due disrespect for the fake neo-NK, if you keep up your ‘Every member of the (bogus) NK is ___’ for another few lines, you will have more ‘every member’ than they have members… They are a few dozen (at most) deranged attention seekers. That’s all. They are protesting against a straw-man/boogeyman that no longer exists, and the more normal Yidden yell at them, the bigger an adrenaline high they get.
Chaim_Baruch – I reside in Israel for close to 30 years, although I would describe myself as ‘non-Zionist’ more than ‘anti-Zionist’. If Zionism in its original form still existed, then I would be anti-Zionist… I am opposed to Yidden not knowing about Yiddishkeit, something the dead Zionists are major shareholders in (but not exclusive shareholders.) The remedy for that is יפוצו מעיינותיך חוצה, not yelling and screaming.
ZSK – I would go further and say that those who are actually familiar with the matzav here understand that the entirety of Israeli society (Chareidi, DL, Mesorti, and Secular) is nuanced and multi-layered. The most radical opponents of classical Zionist ideology today are probably the Meretz/One-State-Solution/IDF=baby-killers types. I doubt that ‘ujm’ knows anything about them, and if he would see them, he would probably think they are big Zionists because they are big atheists… He probably doesn’t know the difference between Noam Chomsky and Bibi Netanyahu… Or between ‘Mamlachti’ DL and ‘Har HaMor’ or ‘Noar G’vaot’… Or even the nuances of local intra-Chareidi politics…
ujm – Jews in London, NY, etc. are entitled to whatever opinion they want on any subject. There is a separate question of how seriously to take your opinion… That depends (among other things) on how familiar you are with the subject matter, and how seriously you take your own opinions (by acting on them in a meaningful way.) On this topic, that is something greatly affected by whether or not you live here. If you think that today’s ‘Zionists’ are located in Tel Aviv and Haifa, that shows how much you know about the demographics and society of ארץ ישראל today… That will affect how seriously people take your opinions…