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Am Yisroel Chai:
First, don’t call me illogical just because you don’t agree with me.

Second, “who said that all of the Rabbanim are against serving in the idf and zionism?”
I have no words, this is pure idiocy

Third, Zionism isn’t as simple as you put it.

– “ZIONSIM is a POLITICAL MOVEMENT that supports the SELF-DETERMINATION and STATEHOOD of the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel”
– “A POLITICAL MOVEMENT is a collective attempt by a group of people to change government policy or social values”
– “STATEHOOD is the condition of being an independent state or nation.”
– “SELF-DETERMINATION is the ability to make your own choices and decisions, set goals, and take control of your life, rather than being controlled by others”

You think Zionism means to love ארץ ישראל, but you’re mistaken. Herzl formed the Zionist Organization to promote Jewish immigration to ארץ ישראל in an effort to form a Jewish state – for ulterior, apikorsus-ridden motives. He didn’t form Zionism to merely promote love for the Holy Land …
If your definition of Zionism is skewed, then my statements will obviously make no sense to you.