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HaKatan
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GadolHadofi:
Why do you claim silly things in other people’s names?
I never wrote that the churban and other tragedies pre-Zionism were caused by Zionism.

You might be confusing that the sages bring down that the post-churban mass destruction of Jews at Beisar (“Beitar”) was caused by a violation of the oaths, the same oaths that Zionism violates. So, the churban and all the rest of the pre-Zionism tragedies, of course, were not caused by Zionism. But, like Beisar and Zionism, there certainly could indeed have been other tragedies that were caused by violating the oaths.

Regarding the Holocaust (specifically) and Zionism, this is a matter of historical record, of course, and the Zionists both admit this and that they would not do anything differently if given a do-over. As the Zionists have stated, better Zionism and no State versus a State with no Zionism, and during the Holocaust, “A cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews of Europe” and on and on. And, to clarify the timeline of both, in case the dofi is getting in the way: Zionism was founded fin-de-sicle (late 1800s). The Holocaust happened almost a half-century later. That logic isn’t at all complicated.