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Mosherose, though I don’t agree with the wolf’s comments either, I don’t think it’s right to expose the real name behind the post. We are all (most of us) anonymous, and it just isn’t fair or ethical, and probably violates halachah to do so. Don’t repay a wrong with a wrong of your own. Does anyone agree with me?

Cantoresq:

I don’t know why I’m bothering to rubut your post (certainly not because i think I will succeed in changing your point of view, because i doubt anything anybody here says will be heard by you.) But maybe in case someone else on this public forum will be infected by your words, I will give a my point of view to consider.

You ask why she deserved the fate she did if she never fargined anyone? As Nameless said, We are not G-d and we have no way of knowing his cheshbonos. She may have been a very high soul who came into this world for a specific purpose and this was the way to fulfill it. As to your question of why her body did not decompose for not being jealous if she anyways could not feel jealousy, so why was she rewarded for it?: I think that is an excellent and intelligent question.

Again, as I said on the smoking blog, Yiddishkeit is not averse to questions, as long as they come from a sincere place and not from a knocking one. I don’t pretend to know the answer, and I can’t even say I believe the story without a doubt (Jews by nature are more sceptical than gullible) as unfortunately many stories make their rounds which turn out to be false or misconstrued. (But I still appreciate the message, regardless whether the story was true)

However, I’d like to propose an answer to your question, just for the sake of learning. We have a precedent in the torah for Hashem rewarding someone for something even if they were not in the position to do otherwise.

When Yaakov Avinu met up with his brother Eisav Harasha after many years, it says that all the shevatim bowed down to Eisav. Many years later, The first king of Yisroel was Shaul, who descended from Binyamin. The question is asked: why specifically from Binyamin ?(Yehuda was not going to receive it at first because the Hashem was not happy with how the request for king was made…See Shmuel Perek 10) One of the answers given is that since all the other shevatim bowed down to the rasha Eisav, except for Binyamin. Why not? BECAUSE HE WAS NOT YET BORN. Here we have another case where Hashem rewarded someone for something even though he was not in a position to do otherwise. How can we mortals try to Fathom Hashem’s Mind?

Nameless, this one’s for you:

You originally posted this story in an effort to raise awareness about jealousy. The whole thing got sidetracked because people would not take a message from a bogus (in their estimation) story.

I give you a challenge I hope you’ll be able to acheive. I challenge you to contact the speaker (I’m sure it shouldn’t be too hard) and try to verify the story and its details. Then get back to us with your results. Deal?