notpashut-firstly- I did not have time to “post” anything these past days so I was not able to add any comments on the “hashkafic tie” post. NO, it was not another Shlomo z’l weekend although I wish I could daven kabollas shabbos every week with his nussach.
Secondly,this whole ridiculous argument about the State and government of Israel is getting rather stale. (will hill and joseph seem to be the main inerlocutors here, with assists from bogen and others)
I did learn “ikvesu demeshecha”, although it was a long time ago. Similarly , I learned a big part of “Vajoel moshe” (to assure joseph)but then, I have also learned Rav Teichtal’s sefer (Eim habonim semeicha) and I have learned extensive passages from Rav Kook’s seforim.I have also read and learned extensive writigns from many other Geedolim on this matter.
On a personal level, I have accepted Rav kook’s shittah and I think that events and historical developments have proven him right.
You , and others, are welcome to continue to quote whatever you want from the past, but the future and history will prove (or- disprove) who was right.
On different occasions, I have clashed with some of the “posters” on this issue. I find it very sterile discussion because:
1) most of the people commenting on this live in the US and have no input into Israeli lives
2) Many of them may very well be hypocritical because they benefit from the State-either with money or with security
3)The discussion has no way to be proven except by seeing how it develops.
So- good luck,members, on your arguments!