well, count me squarely on the side of Pashute Yid and his very reasoned comments. I have littel to add to these true sentiments. to will hill, these zaddikim may not be “tzyionim’ in howc you understand zionism, but they were fully zionists in my eyes. The Vishnitzer rebbe zz’l went to the ballot box to vote with shirah, the Ponevitzer Rva zz’l put up the Israeli flag up on Yom ha-atazmaut, R.Chaim Shmuelewitz zz’l called ALL those who died in the YOm Kippur war “kedoshim” and the gerrer rebbe zz’l, the “imrei emess” encouraged his chassidim to move to then-Palesine and so saved gerrer chassidus from oblivion. To me, they were all zionists because they saw the kedusha in Eretz ysorel and lived there, built it and saw the good in all Jews.
Chuck Schwab’s comments are so ridiculous that they do not even merit a reply. The “good” Arabs indeed! He must be smoking that illegal, hallucinating stuff.