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Itzik_s
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How can anyone support a state that does not support itself and surrenders the land it is meant to protect while it endangers the inhabitants thereof and Jews throughout the world?

What have Rav Kook’s people done for the society of the medine except trying to blend in? I remember very well how a certain politician from Mafdal would go out of his way to make it miserable for those who observe shmita properly because HE believed in the heter mechira. And Rav Kook called America “ama reka”; have his followers done anything to stop the dependence of the medine on American goodwill that can easily run out at times like this?

If tomorrow, the medine elects a government that, while not being Torah true (that can come only with Moshiach) has the guts to say: “We will stand alone if we have to but we will do what is necessary to preserve the safety of the JEWISH people in the Land!” then I might feel differently. But Begin did not do that, neither did Shamir and neither did Bibi. That is because, by definition, a non Torah state cannot succeed in E”Y and must be replaced with a Torah state.

At this stage in history, that can only happen with Moshiach. The medine is the antithesis of Moshiach; it was founded to turn the Jews into a nation like all other nations. The novi says: od teshvu zkenim uzkeinois birchoivois Yerushalayim. Zionism has achieved, as Herzl YMS* and Ben-Gurion OLBM wanted: od teshvu POSHIM ve Z**OT birchovot Yerushalayim (ve’nashim belaylot lo telchu merov pachadim) – in short they have turned kedusha into klipa and light into darkness.

* The reason not to say YMS after a Jew’s name is that you do not want his family line to be wiped out as they can do tshuva. Herzl has no family line; all of his descendants met bad ends and one son was a meshumad. I therefore have no problem saying Herzl YMS though I rarely find him worth discussing. He suffered from delusions caused by a very ignoble infection that spread to his brain and these delusions are evident in his thoughts and writing. OLBM = “Of Less than Blessed Memory” or zechuso yagen – lo aleinu!.