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well, notpashut, you have just re-inforced what I said- you are doing a wonderful three monte crad trick.
But I say “naisai sefer venechze”. Let’s see what the FACTS say !!!! all the following numbers are from wikipedia- and , I imagine reliable,unless you want to make up other numbers, of course.
Firstly- in the first knesset there was a UNITED RELIGIOUS FRONT (so much for the evil religious zionists) 16 seats.
After this, for FIFTY YEARS the chareidim have had virtually unchanged numbers , five to six seats,with some rare exceptions.
You are disingenious in saying that the agudah had three in the beginning. Yes, true, but Poalei agudah, the OTHER chareidi party, also had three, for a total of six.
But the actual numbers voting sre more instructive. Here they are (rounded up), year by year, for all chareidi parties (agudah, degel hatorah and poalei agudah):
1951- 25,000, 1955- 40,000 1959 – 45,000 1961 – 57,000 1965- 61,000
1969 – 69,000 1973 – 60,000 1977 – 82,000 1981 – 72,000 1984 – 36,000
1988 – 136,000 1992 – 86,000 1996- 98,000 1999 – 125,000 2003- 135,000
A steady progression, for sure (except 1984- inexplicable to me,unless it is the emergence of shas) which, of course, reflects the increase in people B’H.
However, the PERCENTAGE of voters has barely changed since the beginning, regardless of the high birth rate or any other reasons.
so, when you say that the chareidim will be in the majoirty in 10-20 years, you are just spouting propaganda.
Shas is not a chareidi party, as it has many,many non-religious voters.
And- in response to your snide comments about the religious zionists, they have consistently garnered about nine=ten seats, whether as the old mafdal or a combination of the many different wings of the religious zionist camp.
so, dear notpashut, you can run around spreading a lot of propaganda but , in fact, your chareidi world has barely increased its representation in sixty years.
As far as all those quotations from “books”, I don’t take my rulings from “maaseh bichlech”