SJS:
I think you still missed Rabbi Avigdor Miller’s point. You said that Kastner was a collaborator and despicable but you question whether other zionist leaders are. The answer is an unequivocal yes. Kastner was, as pointed out, just an example of the atrocities committed by the zionists prior to statehood. There are so many others. Did you also read Rabbi Hutner’s description (in addition to Rabbi Miller’s) earlier in the thread of their activities during that time frame?
What you are asking, to put it in other terms, is if the Nazi’s (yms) are really all bad, since there were some exceptions where individual Nazi’s actually saved Jews. The answer there too is an unequivocal yes, you can clearly state that the Nazi’s were bad. Same with the zionists.
cantoresq:
Trying to shut up discussion by calling all who you disagree with you fanatics is comical. Effectively YOU are engaged in ideological fanaticism. The truth is a very powerful thing, and it hurts those opposed to it. The ostrich buries its head in the sand. You can close your ears and heart to it, but the truth it remains.
Jothar:
Good joke!
BTW Its good you stressed that reminder after someone tried to portray your views as something other than what you stated.