Reply To: R’ Shloimele Z”L

very brief answers, as i do have a day job…

to Think BIG first….Again, as in other postings, you echo a lot of what I say,although you don’t want to admit it.You consider Reb Aryeh Levin zz’l a zaddik and also Rav Grossman, zol gezunt zain, as one of our zaddikim. FULLY AGREED!! They are true righteous people. My point is, simply, that Shlomele z’l was a zaddik too, although you don’t have to admit it. This was not my point. After our earliest discusssions, I am not being judgmental on ANYONE. If I don’t agree with some Rav or Godol, I keep quiet about it, respecting his influnce on others.The same with Shlomele z’l. His achievements are indisputable and all I want is for people not to be judgmental and accuse him of all the sins of Israel. Let hakodesh boruch Hu decide what he deserves in “sechar veoinesh”. Knowing what I know about his chessed and his ahavas yisroel and his tremendous achievements, I, for one, consider him a zaddik.

Your comments about the reb Shlomo chossid are not “passik” for you. Just because he/she has a different derech does not make him/her “toit meshuga”. You can say the same about Breslever chassidim, about Lubavitcher chassidus and many others. Just because someone is different ,does not make him/her “meshuga”.

I am not so sure that the oilam hayeshivos is NOT jealous of Rabbi Amnon.

I don’t know about other rabbonim and their influence on many BT, but Shlomele has a tremendous legacy that we actually know of and this is what I alluded to.

To Joseph, you are right. I did not fully answer your question. Allow me to delve into the halachic background and determine whether chillul shabbos might be allowed IF someone- FOR SURE – would become a shomer torah.I think you may be surprised at the times one CAN be mechallel shabbos for something serious. For now, I accept your question.

To cantoresq, I am showing my ignorance here in telling you that I do not know what the Ahava Rabbah nussach is. At least not by that name.You are,obviously, very knowledgeable in nussach and its components, a lot more than me, I fully admit. However, for you, to say that the nussach goes back to the Maharil and “even further back to Temple times”. How do you know that? There is about 1300 years between the maharil and the Churban habayis. Are you so sure that the nussach comes down from then? I am not sure at all, especially in view that the all Sefardim have very different nussach.(I am not a student of music history but to say that the Yemenite nussach resembles the Ashkenazi one defies my own listening, for one) I also think you are wrong in stating that shlomele z’l did not have a nussach. His kabbolos shaboos is clearly a nusssach.

And your last comment brought a smile to my face. Is cantoresq here the same cantoresq who has been excoriating all of those who believe the many “urban Jewish stories” ?(see other postings). “Off a muhl” -suddenly- you believe a story of six hudnred years ago! WOW !! You have joined the gullibel ones !