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Feivel, obviously by starting a thread, you are going to get a discussion going.

Areivim, you must specify what exactly it is that you ocnsider apikursis. Nobody here has denied HKBH as the Borei Olam. However, we need to divide this thread into subthreads to analyze that claim.

1) Is saying that species evolved from other species apikursis, If so, why?

2) Is saying that the first life form randomly self-assembled from inanimate elements (abiogenesis) apikursis? (Sounds like it, but still leaves room for the Borei to have created the elements and the laws of nature which caused that reaction, so not necessarily.)

3) Is saying dinosaurs once roamed the earth apikursis? (Note there are some chareidi families who will not allow any mention of them, and will take away stuffed toy dinosaurs from little kids?)

4) Is saying that the earth can be more than 6000 years old and the days of bresihis are non-literal or begin from Adam considered apikursis? Again, why? Aren’t there some shitas which hold this way? Don’t Chazal say that the whole Sefer Iyov was only a mashal?

So you need to back up that any of the above is apikursis. (I understand that many people have been conditioned to scream apikursis at any mention of the word evolution, but as before, there are many aspects of the whole theory, and not all or even any may necessarily be considered apikursis. Again, bring rayos. Note that R. Slifkin does bring rayos that many of the above points are found in Chazal. Again, mas somebody mentioned, what do we care what mechanism and intermediates Hashem may have used to create us. As long as we believe he did, what is the problem?