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oomis
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There are lots of places i.e. airport restuarants, places in Manhattan, hotel lounges, that attract ALL types of people, frum not frum, tzniusdig, NOT tsniusdig, etc. etc. and the FOOD in many of these places is under hashgocha. Should the FOOD lose its hashgocha because someone walks in in short sleeves and skirt lengths, or a young couple is holding hands or the like? I totally agree that every rov has the right and responsibility to instruct his oilem as he sees fit and proper, but when a Vaad is taking the power and authority to imply that food is unkosher when it clearly is perfectly kosher, the potential for abuse becomes greater and greater. And if for some reason you feel differently, just remember what happened to Streits this past Pesach. That debacle was an incredible short-sighted abuse of power, and caused a tremendous chillul Hashem and loshon hara, not to mention diminished the respective Vaad groups in the eyes of many frum people in those communities.

IMO, any Vaad should pick and choose its battles carefully when it comes to non-food issues. If there is any question of halachic kashrus, there is no question that they must take decisive action. And I would even agree strongly that if it became known that a certain place was a hangout for drug transactions, that because of the illegal activities taking place, the Vaad has an achrayus to step in and withdraw their hashgocha, because an owner that allows illegalities to knowingly happen in his establishment, cannot be relied upon for his kashrus.

Selling drugs on the second floor, however, is NOT the same thing as teenagers having a slice of pizza, hanging out and talking for a couple of hours. If there are those who really do not see the difference between these two activities, then perhaps they should think about it some more and see if there is really a moral equivalency between the two. I guarantee you, there is not. Putting people out of business by refusing to allow them a local and necessary kashrus hashgocha for any reason other than the food’s kashrus, is blackmail. What happens when someone on the Vaad decides that NO females should be allowed to work in an establishment, whether dressed properly or not, or that only pre-approved shidduch dates may be seated there. Personally, I would love to see the restaurants that allow large families with noisy and ill-behaved kids in their establishment later on in the evening, to be censured for that. When I go to a relatively late dinner (something I cannot afford to do except for special birthdays, anniversaries, etc. ), I want to be able to enjoy the ambience, not listen to a screaming infant whose parents did not want to arrange for a sitter. But I digress…

I think it is often a case of whose ox is being gored, that determines what policies will be enforced,and what will slide by, and that bothers me. There must be a solution to this, and compromise and understanding need to come from all sides, imo.