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Re: Mepal and Squeak: re: for example reporting to childrens services. Not so pashut. I Hatzola, my previous life, we were charged by a panel of social workers, child psychs, crisis intervention, Ohel heads and others that we the Hatzola grunts were mandated reporters, just as any health care worker. That meant calling the call to BCW (in NYC) in cases where abuse was suspect or evident. The Rabbonim that were our halachic managers did not say boo. This was after a tragedy in Boro Park that slipped through the cracks because of many things, among them the community reticence to air problems, and fears of mesirah. Let me tell you from experience, it is a nisayon I wish on nobody. One the one side you have the potential of pikuach nefesh, and on the other condemning a family already with a pekel to a fate in the gulag officialdom worse than death. Hashem yishmereinu.