just to get some yedios. u should look at the gemara on daf samech heh. theres a r’ chaim and a r’ aahron there. ( theres also a r’ chaim on the mishna which is very yesodosdik [ however u spell that in english.lol.] ) and the gilyon hashaas on the mishnah that explains the dif. between someone that steals from a ganav and theres a problem of hagonev min haganev ( which the problem is is that theres a chisaron of birshuso ) and one who steals from a shomer and theres no problem.
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