Chesedname,
Please learn to use the em tag, or at least quotation marks. It’s very difficult to read your posts where your quotation of me just blends into your own remarks.
That being said…
the reason no school is doing it, comes back to my point because the state is not looking to help yeshivas, if they wanted to this could be one of many ways to do it.
You seem to think that splitting the yeshivas up into two schools is somehow the government’s responsibility. It’s not. If a yeshiva wants to try this to get around the state constitution, then they are free to try. No one at the state level is stopping them from splitting their schools in two.
The reason they aren’t doing it is because they can actually the constitution for themselves and see that even a secular school that is owned by a religious organization is ineligible for state funding. Your refusal to see this point is most mind-boggling. You seem to think that if the state wanted to, it could simply wish away the Blaine amendment. But government doesn’t work that way — despite your assertions to the contrary.
really? hmmm guess what yeshivas currently get lunch money, and computer money, and book money, and bus money. the reality is we do get millions, just not enough that parents don’t have to pay twice, once as a tax and again to yeshivas.
Do they? If so, I’d be willing to bet dollars to donuts that the money comes from Federal programs, not state programs (aside from transportation which is specifically exempted from the Blaine Amendment). The state is not giving “millions” to the schools for these programs.
You seem to have this problem of conflating the federal and state governments as if they were one entity. They’re two completely separate forms of government. The Blaine Amendment doesn’t prohibit the feds from giving money for certain programs. It does prohibit the state. Got it?
the fact that the state is broke is a silly argument, I’m talking about a general lack of interest on the states part to help with private tuition for many years, they said no when they had millions of extra dollars. so to say today well their broke, that’s not why it won’t work.
No, the fact that the state is broke is a *very* good argument. If you want the state to kick in money now, then you have to deal with the reality as it is now.
That aside, the voters of New York put the Blaine Amendment into the Constitution. If you want it removed, you have to appeal to the legislators and the voters. That’s the way it works, despite your assertions to the contrary. That’s the democratic process.
However, all is not lost. If you want funding for religious schools from the state, there is a way to do it. Call your legislators. Have an amendment to the state constitution passed. Appeal to the voters and have them vote on it. It’s that simple.
Frankly, your suggestions and comments that we should have the state pay for yeshivos through subterfuge, chicanery and outright fraud (calling money clearly meant for tuition relief “lunch money”) are very disturbing to me. Your complete lack of respect for the rule of law and your lack of understanding of state and federal government workings (such as suggesting that the state government could just ignore the Blaine Amendment if it wanted to) is also troubling.
The Wolf