“TO JOSH: im not talking about if he should go im talking about a serious ben torah who wants to sit and learn AND his parents want to force him to go.”
Poskim have discussed this shayla and every case is different. If this is a real live case, I’m sure the serious bachur would at the very least take it to his rebbe for advice.
“You can make a very good parnassah without college.”
Statisticly, those who are college educated earn a lot more than those who are not. Of course it is all from hashem, but people must do proper hishtadlus. I was told (when I discussed my personal situation with my Rebbe) that proper hishtadlus is not waiting for a money tree to grow in the yard.
“You should also then personally believe that all EMPLOYERS should have time cards and capacity tests, and those who don’t live up to their responsibilities or required knowledge should get fired, based on your comment”
Guess what. Many employers DO have time cards or at least time sheets that employees clock in or sign daily. In fact, some require signing in and out for lunch and other breaks too. Every job that I ever held also came with a bechina, at least once a year. In the workplace it is called “annual review”, some companies give this bechina quarterly or semi annually too. Either way, it is IRRELEVANT what employers do for their employees when discussing what someone in the beis medrash is supposed to be doing.