Reply To: Are We Spoiling Our Kids?

Philosopher, I don’t know what your problem is. Honestly, you started this discussion about dragging your kids in, and holding them responsible and accountable right here, I brought down your quote!

I never said I didn’t write about dragging in my kids. I said you started that discussion. Here’s where you did:

If you and your husband decide that bedtime is at 7:00 and your neighbors don’t put their children to sleep until 8:00 are you doing something wrong?…

I never said I hold them responsible or accountable. In fact I said you CAN’T hold kids responsible if your kids are younger than 11 years of age. My kids are younger than eleven years. I said I have to drag them in. There’s nothing wrong with that. They are kids and they are allowed to act like kids.

Secondly, just because you start one topic on a thread does not mean that it isn’t going to lead and veer off to include other things. That is just plain ridiculous to say. Your entire comment about me is ridiculous and it has absolutely nothing to do with me. It is your own self-projection. Maybe you are reading ME wrong, or you are just plain offended by any comment I make. You don’t own this blog and it isn’t up to you to control it.

And where did I say you are not allowed to change topics? All I said was that you started the discussion about other parents’ rules, not I.

You assumed that YOU knew what it was like raising children in previous generations, but that is impossible for anyone to know because they were never parents in a previous generation

Well, I certainly grew up in the previous generation. I was the kids and I know what we had back then. The kids back then had MUCH less that today. There was much less the parents had too. The current generation is much more steeped in materialism, and I wanted to start a thread about kids being spoiled. You don’t have to agree that kids are more spoiled today. But you don’t have to take such an agressive stand against my opinion.

Obviously you only know how to talk nicely to OTD’s (assuming I believe you about all of that). The following is what I find offensive:

You don’t have to look what others are doing, and you don’t have to judge them right or wrong. You only need to focus on your

own family, your own deeds, your own choices and your own decisions and stop worrying so much about everyone else.

Yes I do have to worry about what other people are doing lgabeh how it affects my kids. However, if you have a different opinion you can say it decently. You don’t have to talk about judging (your favorite word). You can just say, in a non-threatening way, that one should look what’s good for their children, not what others are doing.

Also you wrote:

I didn’t expect my kids to tell time or keep track of time. That was MY responsibility, and if I was late they were late. I didn’t blame them I blamed myself for not paying attention to the clock or for losing track of time.

While you are not saying it outright, since you were addressing me, it is obvious that you are implying that you are saying that I hold my kids responsible, not me, for their bedtimes, or that I blame my kids for there coming in late. You even say that outright in your last post, that I hold my kids responsible and accountable.

I don’t know why you keep on repeating about past generations challenges. What’s the point? I said I am sure every generation has it’s own challenges.

Overall, posts that are addressed to me are written in an agressive manner. Of course your going to deny that. I’m not assuming otherwise.

The funny thing is that you write:

In the early years when my kids were little I couldn’t afford to buy them the toys they wanted. When I was a kid my parents couldn’t even afford to buy me a real Barbie doll and I understood that, but I was a little envious that my friends had the real thing and I had a cheap imitation. Most of my friends went to sleep away camp, I didn’t even go to day camp. It was considered a luxury for girls at that time. Today even the poorest of kids manage to get into some camp. Parents are looked upon as bad parents if they don’t do whatever they possibly can to send their kids to camp.

Yes kids have a lot more in this generation than in previous ones…

Then you write And each generation complained about how spoiled their generation of kids were.

Well, make up your mind, are kids today more spoiled or not?!!!

The point is not what was in my generation or the previous one. You can wax nostalgic about it. The point is that today’s kids ARE spoiled.

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