Reply To: Are We Spoiling Our Kids?

You talk about kids being spoiled today. I said kids are spoiled in every generation.

As I kid I wasn’t spoiled. Neither were my freinds. Cerainly we were not lacking in materialism, but it was not that things were needed as much as they were today. Today’s necesities used to be considered luxuries. That kids get a lot more is an understatement. The generation before that, the children of Holocaust survivors were certainly not spoiled. In Europe too, there was rampant poverty. In the more affluent countries such as Germany and certain parts of Hungary, there too, for the vast majority the children were not spoiled. Maybe they had a doll, some sweets, good quality clothing, certainly not what kids have today.

I’m not saying life was easy in previous generations. I’m saying that every generation had their challenges. I understand that you have a different opinion. I’m just stating my opinion.

The reason I opened this thread was to come out with concrete ideas on how to not spoil kids even if kids around them are being spoiled. That I’m frustrated with other parents who do give things without cheshbon because it does effect the way I need to parent, did make it’s way into some of my comments. There’s nothing wrong in expressing some frustration at this situation, just like when you express frustration at for example, the lack of ahavas Yisroel in the CR.

You then analyze me and tell me what I think, how i feel and what I mean by what I am saying. Then you tell me what I think about you, how I should feel, what I should be saying, what I should be doing, what I brought into the conversation, what I shouldn’t have brought into the conversation, quote by quote by quote.

Of of course I’m analyzing you. I’m showing you quote by quote where I feel you are overstepping the line by being judgmental and rude. Imagine if I were to say that your parents were stingy because they didn’t give you what other kids in your times had. That would be a disgusting thing to say. Well, I think it is the ultimate of rudeness to say that “I’m holding my kids accountable and responsible” for not coming in one time. Or other such comments.

Every post that appears on this or other threads is not a personal answer to you so stop taking everything so personally. It is not a personal debate with you either.

If a post is addressed to me, if you write philospoher, then I assume it is a comment that you intended for me. Otherwise I may simply write a post stating my different opinion, just as you are entitled to do so.

Not everything needs to be chewed up and digested and quoted and answered word for word and point by point.

That’s how I do it if I have points to make. No I don’t have to do it. I want to.

And not everything or everyone needs to be analyzed to see if they have a motive behind their words.

That’s right. That’s why I’m quoting you for you to realize that I am not analyzing or digging deep into your words. I’m simply offended at your words. It’s right there in black and white.

You are entitled to your opinions as I am to mine.

I agree one hundred percent. I just feel that disagreements don’t warrant being called judgemental or posting comments in a very disparaging way.

Lets just call it a truce.

Sure, I’d love to do so.