The conservative movement started out as “kiruv” too. “Let’s change the halacha to keep them coming into shul.” Kiruv is wonderful when it’s done by people who are a maayan hamisgabeir, and can give without being emptied. When it’s done by mashpi’im it’s wonderful. When it’s done by mushpa’im it’s a kilkul. I would love to know who the rabbi being quotes
True story. A rabbi in an out-of-town community is always being harassed by a “kiruv rabbi” in the same community. Then the rabbi finds out that this “kiruv rabbi” is being mezaneh with a shiktza! The rabbi confronts the “kiruv rabbi” about it, who says, “This is a milchama, and in a milchama a yefas to’ar is muttar”. SEED was originally started to be bochurim learning in places in the summer. It wasn’t about partying in the name of kiruv. The frum velt long ago rejected the “Negiah Can Save Yiddishkeit” approach to kiruv, which led to a massive scandal in said organization.