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BP TATTY: With respect, ur friend is mistaken being part of the bigger family or klal does not contradict whatsoever self esteem and self worth, on the contrary belonging builds self esteem, the issue is when we have so many ppl looking and doing the same, for example even in volozin where everone learnt torah, there were so many individuals and drachim that this issue didnt surface.
Sacrilege: NO WAY, mussar is introspection, on the contrary mussar that is learnt properly builds the person.
WELLINFORMEDYID: Gadls hadam is def not the same, although gadlus hadam might help self esteem.
The way i see it, ppl were more real, more individual, ppl thought more, and did things with thought, the level of “adom” went down to a point were we dont know who we are.