I stated clearly the Chareidi point of view, that there is a Torah concept of creating a separation for Jews, and the purpose of this is in order to lay the groundwork for a Jew to become connected to Hashem. Then I brought sources from the Torah/Gemara which mention this concept with its understanding.
Yet you insisted on going further and saying a whole pshat in the contrast between Chareidi’ism and Modernism (If I may use those terms). That isn’t relevant to a debate. State your case, base it in something, let others try and argue, defend your position, and move on. Everything else is just politics and bashing and not the point of an intellectually honest debate.
Also, Mesilas Yishorim and Nefesh Hachaim come from the same Bais Medrash. The Vilna Gaon, the Rebbe of the Nefesh Hachaim, said that the first ten chapters of the Mesillas Yishorim were written with Ruach Hakodesh.
Be that as it may, as I said, the MY is not the Litvishe primer. Moreover, a Litvak reading MY will interpret things differently than a Chosid. Listen, if we had an argument about a halacha and your source was a mefurashe halacha in Shulchan Aruch and mine was a pasuk in Yirmiyah, you would have the better rayah. Obviously we believe in Yirmiyah, but at the end of the day our interpretation of the halacha is going to generally follow the SA and as for the rayah from Yirmiyah – “nu nu.” Nobody is arguing that the MY is a sefer accepted by the Litvishe oilam. It is no Tanya. But it isn’t the Nefesh Hachayim either. And from the way I’ve been taught in my litvishe yeshivos and from what I’ve read in Sha’ar Daled of NH, your idea of dveikus is entirely misconstrued.