Reply To: kiruv krovim and the cause of social stigma

RK: I assume that you meant someone who doesnt actually believe in anything…i would imagine that the answer is no…

EH: im not starting any organizations…

i was in yeshiva X for ninth grade and then switched to yeshiva Y.

in yeshiva X you couldnt ask the top bachurim questions. i was mid-high level in shiur, not the best but i was up there. every time it came time for a test or a farher, all the best bochurim would team up with each other, and the weaker guys were left to fend for themselves. so i basically had a chabura of 9 guys who i would teach 2 months of material to in 2 weeks. once in a while i would have a question myself seeing as i didnt have a proper chavrusa of my own. so i go up to one of the best bachurim and i ask him if he has time to answer a really quick question. he says “i’m sorry, im busy learning”

i wanted to punch the little brat square in the jaw. what did you just say?! YOURE LEARNING?! you little piece of trash…WHAT DO YOU THINK IM DOING?! no. apparently my learning was worthless compared to his.

or when it came to hashkafa questions. none of the rebbeim wanted to answer anyone;s questions.

when i switched yeshivos everything changed. the best bachurim were more than happy to answer anyone;s questions (within reason) and the rebbeim encouraged discussions about emuna and hashkafah. in both places there were people i knew would go off the derech. in yeshiva X a lot of those people DID go off the derech. in yeshiva Y NONE of them went off the derech. nuff said?

Mytake: and why do you suppose that is. because these problems were invented in the year 2000? ive encountered a lot of stigma in my short 19 years in this world, and i cant remember how many times ive heard some idiot say “nisht bay inzerer”

REALLY?! really?! no, of course nisht bay inzerer…THEYRE ALREADY OFF THE DERECH!